(che nei cartoni animati, e non solo, i bambini siano doppiati da donne, è una regola :stralol: )
Ehm, ma si parla degli attori per i ragazzi Stark e Baratheon/Lannister... che sono già stati scelti, quindi non capisco il tuo commento. A meno che tu stia parlando in generale, ma in questo caso la regia ha fatto una scelta contraria a quel trend ^_^
(che nei cartoni animati, e non solo, i bambini siano doppiati da donne, è una regola :stralol: )
Ehm, ma si parla degli attori per i ragazzi Stark e Baratheon/Lannister... che sono già stati scelti, quindi non capisco il tuo commento. A meno che tu stia parlando in generale, ma in questo caso la regia ha fatto una scelta contraria a quel trend ^_^
Ah, forse non si e' capito a cosa mi riferivo: si era parlato piu' volte della relazione tra l'eta' degli attori con quella dei personaggi, e in molti speravano che gli attori avessero eta' coincidenti con i loro personaggi. Io avevo espresso perplessita', e mi auguravo attori piu' adulti (dall'aspetto infantile), e adesso che ci si pone il problema della crescita mi limitavo a sottolineare che l'uso di attori piu' grandi e' assolutamente comune.
Sorry se non era chiara la pertinenza del mio intervento! :wub:
chiaro ora ^_^
L'attore Peter O'Meara (Link) potrebbe far parte del cast futuro:
Well, it may involve a Game of Thrones. Nothing definite but my fingers are certainly crossed.
Profilo Imdb: Link
Che ne dite, Ditocorto ci starebbe?
« I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp'd on these lifeless things,
The hand that mock'd them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away. »
o mio Dio assolutamente no :wacko:
questo "bravo ex-ragazzo del kansas" dalla mascella volitiva potrebbe al massimo fare Harwin
Per ditocorto non e' assolutamente adatto. Io Ditocorto me lo immagino come un tipo che nella folla quasi svanisce, piccolo ed esile (o forse potrei dire 'subdolo' :wacko: ).
Immagino pero' che diversi personaggi potrebbero adattarsi a O'Meara (qualche nobile, ad esempio).
O'Meara ha 40 anni. Chi potrebbe essere?
C'è chi ipotizza Edmure, Bronn, Jory...
In alcune immagini che ci sono su Imdb non mi sembra così inadatto a Ditocorto, anche se effettivamente non è proprio l'immagine che mi ero fatto di lui (tenete presente comunque che è solo una ipotesi).
« I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp'd on these lifeless things,
The hand that mock'd them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away. »
Di tutti i proposti, direi Edmure. Per Ditocorto/Bronn é troppo "bellone/perfettino".
Potrebbe essere anche Jory, peró per il ruolo di Jory basterebbe anche una comparsa.
Team Greyjoy
#SaveSerBalzo!
Fondatore del comitato di quelli che venerano Nina Gold 
Co-ideatore del comitato pro-mozzarelloni headbangers (in cerca di nuovo mozzarellone headbanger) 
Appartente al comitato di protesta: Merret Frey stava solo bevendo!! 
Che ne dite di Doran Martell o il fratello...
Che ne dite di Doran Martell o il fratello...
Nel libro libro non ci sono. :wacko:
« I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp'd on these lifeless things,
The hand that mock'd them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away. »
ha la faccia da belloccio Renly...
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ha la faccia da belloccio Renly...
Gia', ha solo il doppio degli anni :wacko:
Su Winter is coming hanno rettificato il post su O'Meara. A quanto pare non é in trattative per un ruolo e non ha fatto ancora nessun tipo di trattative per il ruolo. Lui annuncia solo il suo interesse di partecipare al progetto, in quanto fan di Benioff e di ASOIAF. Nulla di definito, quindi.
Team Greyjoy
#SaveSerBalzo!
Fondatore del comitato di quelli che venerano Nina Gold
Co-ideatore del comitato pro-mozzarelloni headbangers (in cerca di nuovo mozzarellone headbanger)
Appartente al comitato di protesta: Merret Frey stava solo bevendo!!
Su Westeros.org a questo link http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic...adaptation-faq/ è stato messo insieme un articolo contenente una grande quantità di Faq...
Vengono sciolti alcuni dubbi che ci assillavano da tempo, come le tempistche, la gestione delle età dei personaggi, i meta lupi, la fedeltà ai romanzi, le battaglie, le prospettive per le future serie, il rapporto con i fan, e così via.
Alcune cose si sapevano già, ma molte altre, almeno per me, sono sembrate delle novità.
Copio le Faq qui sotto:
FAQ
What are the odds of the series being picked up?
It would be difficult to put a figure on it. On paper, the chances are excellent. HBO are doing very well despite the recession and have a significant 'war chest' to spend on new projects. They are bullishly pursuing several other high-profile television projects (including the new series by the makers of The Wire, Treme, and a Scorsese period gangster epic, Boardwalk Empire, not to mention their sequel to Band of Brothers, The Pacific, airing in early 2010) and Game of Thrones would fit in well as a successor to their previous major costume dramas such as Rome and Deadwood. However, the project is extremely ambitious, fairly expensive (if not as expensive as some of those previous series) and the mix of a fantasy world and drama inspired by real-life history is unusual. It is not 'in the bag' by any means.
Additionally in Game of Thrones' favour, there are numerous fans of the books out there and several major TV critics have been championing the series since before the pilot was even filmed. According to some of these industry insiders, HBO are impressed by the level of attention being paid to the project and are confident about the project. However, once again, it is not a sure thing and HBO have passed on major projects before.
Early 2011? Why so long?
Whilst the pilot has already been filmed, the series itself, if picked up, will not be starting production until the late spring of 2010 at the earliest. With a 30-week shoot planned, that already takes the production up to the end of 2010 and possibly even into the start of 2011. Previous HBO projects have had several months elapse between the conclusion of principle photography and airing the series, so a spring 2011 date appears plausible. It is possible that HBO will take a different route with Thrones allowing it to be shown earlier, or may even air it later than that. A late 2010 airdate, however, would appear to be impossible at this time, although we may see the first trailers around that time.
Can we do anything to encourage HBO to pick up the project?
For American fans, polite letters or emails to HBO expressing interest in the project may be the way to go. If you do not subscribe to HBO at present and are interested in doing so to watch this series, letting them know this would also be useful. The exact status of the BBC in the project is currently unclear, but British fans may also find it useful to let the BBC politely know they had heard about the project on the grapevine and would be very happy if the BBC indeed contributed to it.
If the series is not picked up, will we ever see the pilot?
Only if it leaks online from an internal source. HBO's pilots are proofs-of-concept for internal consumption only, and may not have completed effects and may use temp tracks rather than a proper, custom musical score. It is meant to give the TV executives a good idea of what the final series will look like on-screen, rather than being a fully completed, ready-to-air TV episode in its own right. If the series is picked up, the pilot will air as Episode 1 of Season 1.
What material does the pilot cover?
The pilot starts with the book's prologue and features all of the material up to "The things I do for love,". The second Daenerys scene, involving her marriage, has been brought forwards to the first episode as well, and there is some new dialogue between Eddard and Jaime during the Winterfell feast. There is also a brief new scene in King's Landing where Jaime goes looking for Tyrion to tell him they are going to Winterfell.
Do any the producers/actors post on this message board? Can we make casting suggestions to them?
Producers David Benioff and Dan Weiss very occasionally post on the board and have asked for ongoing casting suggestions in this subforum. None of the actors post on the board as yet, but several do read it, and have expressed admiration for the Photoshopping thread. As mentioned elsewhere, George R.R. Martin does not read the boards, but his partner Parris does, and occasionally posts.
Note that because castmembers do visit the boards, we ask contributors to be polite in their descriptions or assessments of particular actors and their suitability for their roles, particularly remembering that no-one has seen a single minute of finished footage as yet.
Do any of the boardmembers have a role in the production?
Several boardmembers served in the pilot episode as extras, and one as a weapons advisor. Please note that those boardmembers who have done so will have signed a Non-Disclosure Agreement with HBO which will significantly limit what they can discuss here, and we ask other boardmembers to be respectful of those limitations.
Several more boardmembers attended the joint GRRM/cast signing event and party in Belfast in early November 2009 and their reports can be read here. My own report on the event, with pictures, can be read here, here and here.
What other websites are covering the production?
Westeros.org has its dedicated TV news/article section here.
The blog Winter-is-Coming has been following the production here.
Wikipedia's article on the TV series is here.
Chicago Tribune TV critic Maureen Ryan has been covering the series here.
George R.R. Martin occasionally covers the production in his Not-a-Blog here.
How are HBO addressing the young ages of some of the characters with regards to sex and violence?
Almost all of the characters, children or adult, are being aged up by at least a few years. Robb and Jon are 17 rather than 14, Daenerys is 15 rather than 13 and so on (all three actors are 23 in real life). Sean Bean, who plays Ned Stark, is fifteen years older than Ned in the books, whilst Mark Addy is ten years older than Robert Baratheon as described in the books. Jennifer Ehle and Lena Headey are more like 5-7 years older than in the books. These age increases are partly down to legal requirements for the amount of time the younger actors can spend on set and their involvement in sexually explicit scenes, and also down to storytelling considerations: George R.R. Martin has also said that in retrospect he should have made the characters a few years older at the start of the series, and may have advised the TV producers to do so for the series.
How are HBO handling the direwolves?
The dead direwolf mother is a physical prop. The direwolf pups are real-life wolf pups. The young direwolves are also real animals. How the show handles the direwolves when they get to a much larger size is unknown, and will be handled later in the series, if it is picked up.
How is the show handling the books' POV structure?
As far as is known at the moment, the series will not be using any special means to reproduce the POV structure from the books (each chapter being from a specific POV only). This frees them to move around and show different characters and different reactions in a given scene. The POVs will still be important, however, because the POV characters are also, mostly, the main protagonists of the series.
How is the show handling the languages?
Westerosi is being depicted as English, possibly with different (British) accents to differentiate different areas. An actual linguistics expert was hired to work out a viable Dothraki grammar for scenes involving Khal Drogo and his followers. Whether this will continue in the series for other languages (the bastard Valyrian of the Free Cities or Slaver's Bay, the languages of Qarth and so forth) remains to be seen.
How is HBO handling the geography of Westeros?
The planned title sequence for the series involves a crow flying across a map of the continent, from the Wall to King's Landing, passing over points of importance in the first season (Winterfell, the Twins, the Eyrie and Riverrun) along the way. It is possible that this will be adjusted in later seasons to incorporate other locations (maybe Dragonstone, Pyke and Storm's End in the second season). We may also see in-situ maps during strategy and planning sequences, or example. It is unknown if there will be maps depicting the location of Pentos and Daenerys' journey in relation to Westeros (but note that there aren't any in the books either).
Scenery and establishing shots will likely be a combination of real-world photography and CGI where necessary.
How will HBO depict the battles on their budget?
This isn't a huge issue for A Game of Thrones, as the Battle of the Whispering Wood is heard more than seen and the Battle of the Camps is given as a report in Tywin's tent rather than depicted. This only leaves the Lannister assault on Roose Bolton's forces, where only part of the battle detached from the main action is depicted from Tyrion's POV, and this is easily depictable on HBO's budget (which is considerably larger than many other series depicting battles, such as say the BBC's Merlin or various historical documentaries).
How the much vaster Battle of the Blackwater in the second season and the Battle of the Wall in the third are handled remain to be seen.
How are HBO handling the splitting of characters in the fourth and fifth books?
Neither HBO nor GRRM have commented on this directly, but the casting sides indicated that characters who are not in A Feast for Crows but are in A Dance with Dragons will be required for 'Season 4'. Given the emphatic assertions by the producers that this is a seven-year project, this suggests that the timelines and events of the two books will be combined by chronological order and then allowed to unfold across two seasons. This arrangement is not confirmed, however.
How faithful is the series to the books?
According to the pilot script, very faithful. A fair amount of the dialogue is identical, character and location descriptions seem to being followed and where changes are being made, they are being made with the knowledge of George RR Martin. On at least one occasion the TV producers were thinking about moving away from the books (by giving the Lannisters notably different weapons to differentiate them from the Starks), but chose to stay close to the books instead. They have also employed some of the people involved in A Song of Ice and Fire merchandising, such as the makers of the replica Valyrian Steel swords, in matching the look and feel of the books using their experience.
What happens if HBO catch up with the production of the books?
HBO are aware of the writing/publication time of the books and the issues involved, and have so far indicated no concern over this being a problem. Given that HBO are known for taking much longer (sometimes 18-24 month) breaks between TV seasons, it is possible that that GRRM will be able to remain ahead of the TV production even if the sixth and seventh books in the series take four to five years each to produce. However, since to get to a sixth, let alone a seventh, season Game of Thrones would have to be one of the most successful shows on HBO at the time, it is a problem they would love to have. In addition (speculation), the very fact the books are not finished and people can't go out and read the last page of the last book to immediately find out how the story ends may also be attractive to HBO.
Can HBO afford this in the long run? They did cancel ROME, CARNIVALE and DEADWOOD, after all.
HBO have taken production decisions to minimize the budget of Game of Thrones without compromising quality. Rome's huge budget was a result of filming in Rome, the most expensive shooting location in the world. Game of Thrones is being filmed in the UK and Morocco with impressive tax breaks and free use of the Paint Hall facility. The cancellation of Carnivale and Deadwood were also partially down to problems beyond the budget. In addition, at the times that all of these shows were cancelled HBO did not take into consideration DVD/Blu-Ray sales, iTunes or other legal download sales. They later indicated that they could have kept Rome on the air due to its impressive DVD sales and stronger-than-expected ratings for the second season (aired after they'd decided to cancel it). As a result, they have acknowledged that the cancellation of Rome was premature and they will try not to make the same mistake again.
When is the next major news going to come through?
The next major piece of news is expected to come in March, when HBO announce if they will be pursuing the project or not. If they pick it up, there will be additional casting and production news to follow. It is unclear if there will be any further major announcements between now and then. Keep an eye on the forum and websites following the production for further news
Buon Natale e tutti! :D
Qualche anima candida che abbia voglia di tradurla per i non anglofoni (o per i pigri e influenzati come la Dama)? :D
