https://ew.com/george-rr-martin-winds-of-winter-delay-controversy-11828778
"I know there's all this controversy about Winds of Winter and how late it is, but I've always had trouble with deadlines," he said, "and I don't feel happy breaching contracts or missing a deadline or anything like that."
Later on in the conversation, after Martin explained his process ("I hate doing outlines"), he circled back on the topic. He pointed out how his success from the Game of Thrones universe led networks and studios to now buy up the screen rights to all his past works that he may have considered commercial failures back in the day.
"Every time that happens, and I announce it on my website, half the internet goes crazy," Martin said. "'Why the f--- is George R.R. Martin writing this other thing when he should be writing Winds of Winter? What is he doing?' And I want to say, 'I did it in 1993, guys. Come on! It was lying in my drawer, and they wanted it, so I sold it to them!'"
Martin doesn't have kids but likened his works, including Wild Cards and AMC drama Dark Winds, which he executive produces, to children that he loves equally. "Yes, I do love Winds of Winter. I'm still interested in it, I'm still working on it, but honestly, I love these other things, too," he said.
The time between the notes relates the colour to scenes,
A constant vogue of triumphs dislocate man, so it seems,
And space between the focus shape ascend knowledge of love
As song and chance develop time lost social temperance rules above
Then according to the man who showed his outstretched arm to space,
He turned around and pointed revealing all the human race,
I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place
Jon Anderson & Steve Howe (Close to the Edge)
What is honor compared to a woman's love? What is duty against the feel of a newborn son in your arms… or the memory of a brother's smile? Wind and words. Wind and words. We are only human, and the gods have fashioned us for love. That is our great glory, and our great tragedy.
George R. R. Martin (A Game of Thrones)
The measure of a life is a measure of love and respect,
So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time,
A garden to nurture and protect
It's a measure of a life
The treasure of a life is a measure of love and respect,
The way you live, the gifts that you give
In the fullness of time,
It's the only return that you expect
Neil Peart (The Garden)
Ernest Hemingway once wrote, ‘The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for.’ I agree with the second part.
Andrew Kevin Walker (Seven)
In this game that we’re playing, we can’t win. Some kinds of failure are better than other kinds, that’s all.
George Orwell (Nineteen Eighty-Four)
Se continua a rilasciare dichiarazioni così generiche , di circostanza, poi non può pretendere che la gente non lo insulti .
Tutte le citazioni di TWOW dal 2020 a oggi sul blog di GRRM:
https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/s/JNxxyPM0p1
In sintesi: presenza eccezionale nel 2020, ragguardevole nel 2021, e dal 2022 in poi menzioni sempre più rade.
The time between the notes relates the colour to scenes,
A constant vogue of triumphs dislocate man, so it seems,
And space between the focus shape ascend knowledge of love
As song and chance develop time lost social temperance rules above
Then according to the man who showed his outstretched arm to space,
He turned around and pointed revealing all the human race,
I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place
Jon Anderson & Steve Howe (Close to the Edge)
What is honor compared to a woman's love? What is duty against the feel of a newborn son in your arms… or the memory of a brother's smile? Wind and words. Wind and words. We are only human, and the gods have fashioned us for love. That is our great glory, and our great tragedy.
George R. R. Martin (A Game of Thrones)
The measure of a life is a measure of love and respect,
So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time,
A garden to nurture and protect
It's a measure of a life
The treasure of a life is a measure of love and respect,
The way you live, the gifts that you give
In the fullness of time,
It's the only return that you expect
Neil Peart (The Garden)
Ernest Hemingway once wrote, ‘The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for.’ I agree with the second part.
Andrew Kevin Walker (Seven)
In this game that we’re playing, we can’t win. Some kinds of failure are better than other kinds, that’s all.
George Orwell (Nineteen Eighty-Four)
GRRM intervistato dalla televisione islandese: https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/s/xFFZQez0w8
GRRM: I am still working on [the books], and on the TV shows too. We have a lot of stuff going on with HBO, and I have a lot more shows to work on, and books--of course the big one that's late, everybody wants to know about, but it's still late so I don't know how much I can say. I'm still working on it.
Interviewer: But you work? You are working?
GRRM: Yeah. The problem is--well, I don't want to go into this too much--I am working on a lot of things. And it's easier when you're only working on one thing. You can concentrate on it everyday.
Interviewer: But you seem to have been very industrious during your life.
GRRM: Well, compared to some people, yeah. But not compared to others. I did a thing with Stephen King a few years ago--my god, Stephen King, so prolific--he's done like eight novels in the time I've just been working on the last one. He's amazing. And not only does he do a lot, which is itself a marvel, but is good. Everything he does is good. And you can always do a lot if you don't care if it's good or not. And I do care if it's good. It's not easy to make it good, and that's a struggle.
The time between the notes relates the colour to scenes,
A constant vogue of triumphs dislocate man, so it seems,
And space between the focus shape ascend knowledge of love
As song and chance develop time lost social temperance rules above
Then according to the man who showed his outstretched arm to space,
He turned around and pointed revealing all the human race,
I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place
Jon Anderson & Steve Howe (Close to the Edge)
What is honor compared to a woman's love? What is duty against the feel of a newborn son in your arms… or the memory of a brother's smile? Wind and words. Wind and words. We are only human, and the gods have fashioned us for love. That is our great glory, and our great tragedy.
George R. R. Martin (A Game of Thrones)
The measure of a life is a measure of love and respect,
So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time,
A garden to nurture and protect
It's a measure of a life
The treasure of a life is a measure of love and respect,
The way you live, the gifts that you give
In the fullness of time,
It's the only return that you expect
Neil Peart (The Garden)
Ernest Hemingway once wrote, ‘The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for.’ I agree with the second part.
Andrew Kevin Walker (Seven)
In this game that we’re playing, we can’t win. Some kinds of failure are better than other kinds, that’s all.
George Orwell (Nineteen Eighty-Four)
io non me la prendo nemmeno ormai per questo, basterebbe evitare le prese in giro e qualche via di uscita ci sarebbe...
1)pubblicare almeno il poco che ha scritto di TWOW su cui non ha cambiato idea per la cinquantesima volta, mi sorprende almeno quello non glielo abbiano imposto gli editori, fossero anche 150-200 pagine
2)lasciare il compito a qualcun altro seguendo le sue linee guida
3)ammettere che gli piace fare altro e che non ha la motivazione, la voglia, il finale a grandi linee rivelato dalla serie, inventando anche altro se preferisce, ma evitare queste inutili uscite che vanno avanti da troppo, non è assolutamente un crimine non terminare un'opera, è poco rispettoso prendere in giro i lettori pero
" A Grande Inverno giuriamo la fedeltà della Torre delle Acque Grigie. Cuore e focolare e raccolto a te noi doniamo, mio lord. Le nostre spade, le lance e le frecce sono al tuo comando. Da’ misericordia ai nostri deboli, aiuta i nostri inermi e fa’ giustizia per tutti. Noi mai ti volteremo le spalle. Lo giuro sulla terra e sull’acqua. Lo giuro sul bronzo e sul ferro. Lo giuriamo sul ghiaccio e sul fuoco. "
Intanto George è dal 7 ottobre che non scrive un post sul blog.
Nemmeno più quello ci è rimasto
Forse è rimasto scottato dalla polemica sulle presunte immagini IA pubblicate per l'edizione celebrativa dei vent'anni di AFFC.
The time between the notes relates the colour to scenes,
A constant vogue of triumphs dislocate man, so it seems,
And space between the focus shape ascend knowledge of love
As song and chance develop time lost social temperance rules above
Then according to the man who showed his outstretched arm to space,
He turned around and pointed revealing all the human race,
I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place
Jon Anderson & Steve Howe (Close to the Edge)
What is honor compared to a woman's love? What is duty against the feel of a newborn son in your arms… or the memory of a brother's smile? Wind and words. Wind and words. We are only human, and the gods have fashioned us for love. That is our great glory, and our great tragedy.
George R. R. Martin (A Game of Thrones)
The measure of a life is a measure of love and respect,
So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time,
A garden to nurture and protect
It's a measure of a life
The treasure of a life is a measure of love and respect,
The way you live, the gifts that you give
In the fullness of time,
It's the only return that you expect
Neil Peart (The Garden)
Ernest Hemingway once wrote, ‘The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for.’ I agree with the second part.
Andrew Kevin Walker (Seven)
In this game that we’re playing, we can’t win. Some kinds of failure are better than other kinds, that’s all.
George Orwell (Nineteen Eighty-Four)
Secondo me si è reso conto, con incredibile ritardo che non immagineresti da una persona intelligente, che la gente si sente presa in giro , che a nessuno interessano i suoi gusti e sentimenti, e che la sua Legacy è solo ed esclusivamente Asoiaf , quindi magari quando scriverà qualcosa sul suo blog sarà solo per annunci importanti.
Anno nuovo, nuove speculazioni su TWOW: Elio García pensa che TWOW verrà sicuramente pubblicato in futuro, anche in forma postuma e incompleta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alu-7pFSS68
The time between the notes relates the colour to scenes,
A constant vogue of triumphs dislocate man, so it seems,
And space between the focus shape ascend knowledge of love
As song and chance develop time lost social temperance rules above
Then according to the man who showed his outstretched arm to space,
He turned around and pointed revealing all the human race,
I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place
Jon Anderson & Steve Howe (Close to the Edge)
What is honor compared to a woman's love? What is duty against the feel of a newborn son in your arms… or the memory of a brother's smile? Wind and words. Wind and words. We are only human, and the gods have fashioned us for love. That is our great glory, and our great tragedy.
George R. R. Martin (A Game of Thrones)
The measure of a life is a measure of love and respect,
So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time,
A garden to nurture and protect
It's a measure of a life
The treasure of a life is a measure of love and respect,
The way you live, the gifts that you give
In the fullness of time,
It's the only return that you expect
Neil Peart (The Garden)
Ernest Hemingway once wrote, ‘The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for.’ I agree with the second part.
Andrew Kevin Walker (Seven)
In this game that we’re playing, we can’t win. Some kinds of failure are better than other kinds, that’s all.
George Orwell (Nineteen Eighty-Four)
Secondo Ira Parker, showrunner di A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, GRRM ha piani per 10-12 nuove novelle di D&E, per un totale di 13-15 novelle.
The time between the notes relates the colour to scenes,
A constant vogue of triumphs dislocate man, so it seems,
And space between the focus shape ascend knowledge of love
As song and chance develop time lost social temperance rules above
Then according to the man who showed his outstretched arm to space,
He turned around and pointed revealing all the human race,
I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place
Jon Anderson & Steve Howe (Close to the Edge)
What is honor compared to a woman's love? What is duty against the feel of a newborn son in your arms… or the memory of a brother's smile? Wind and words. Wind and words. We are only human, and the gods have fashioned us for love. That is our great glory, and our great tragedy.
George R. R. Martin (A Game of Thrones)
The measure of a life is a measure of love and respect,
So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time,
A garden to nurture and protect
It's a measure of a life
The treasure of a life is a measure of love and respect,
The way you live, the gifts that you give
In the fullness of time,
It's the only return that you expect
Neil Peart (The Garden)
Ernest Hemingway once wrote, ‘The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for.’ I agree with the second part.
Andrew Kevin Walker (Seven)
In this game that we’re playing, we can’t win. Some kinds of failure are better than other kinds, that’s all.
George Orwell (Nineteen Eighty-Four)
Jacaerys Velaryon ha scritto:Anno nuovo, nuove speculazioni su TWOW: Elio García pensa che TWOW verrà sicuramente pubblicato in futuro, anche in forma postuma e incompleta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alu-7pFSS68
Questo è comprensibile, praticamente l'editore ha in mano l'80% del libro .
Ma le novelle non dovevano essere 9 o 10 ?
Io credo solo , e neanche completamente, alle dichiarazioni di Martin e dell' editore, lo showrunner lo prendo con le pinze .
Questi continui rimandi alle cose da fare uscire dopo winds creano confusione ma anche teorie interessanti, tipo che winds è il macigno che una volta tolto di mezzo si sblocca tutto , Dream principalmente
Mai capito perché in tutti questi anni non ha scritto neanche una novella, pur avendo per molte già definito tutto. Parliamo di 100 pagine con un unico pov.
Intervista bomba di GRRM su vari argomenti:
Per quanto riguarda ASOIAF e derivati:
*TWOW è fermo a 1100 pagine di manoscritto
*Nel frattempo, GRRM ha scritto in parte due novelle di D&E
*Non ha intenzione di arrendersi con ASOIAF e se dovesse morire prima di aver terminato la saga, essa resterà incompiuta
*Non è più sicuro che TWOW sia una priorità, e pensa che la altre novelle di D&E e il nuovo volume di F&B potrebbero essere una distrazione positiva nel mentre cerca di scrivere ASOIAF
*Gli è sfuggito che sta lavorando a capitoli di Jon Snow
*Il finale di ASOIAF sarà molto diverso e più cruento rispetto a quello di GOT. Tyrion e Sansa, in particolare, sono fra i personaggi "usciti bene" da GOT che potrebbero avere un finale tragico in ASOIAF (qui secondo me stava facendo una battuta, ma non si sa mai)
*Di seguito, un riassunto del processo di scrittura.
Here’s what happens when he sits down to write: “I will open the last chapter I was working on and I’ll say, ‘Oh fuck, this is not very good.’ And I’ll go in and I’ll rewrite it. Or I’ll decide, ‘This Tyrion chapter is not coming along, let me write a Jon Snow chapter.’ If I’m not interrupted though, what happens — at least in the past — is sooner or later, I do get into it.”
The time between the notes relates the colour to scenes,
A constant vogue of triumphs dislocate man, so it seems,
And space between the focus shape ascend knowledge of love
As song and chance develop time lost social temperance rules above
Then according to the man who showed his outstretched arm to space,
He turned around and pointed revealing all the human race,
I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place
Jon Anderson & Steve Howe (Close to the Edge)
What is honor compared to a woman's love? What is duty against the feel of a newborn son in your arms… or the memory of a brother's smile? Wind and words. Wind and words. We are only human, and the gods have fashioned us for love. That is our great glory, and our great tragedy.
George R. R. Martin (A Game of Thrones)
The measure of a life is a measure of love and respect,
So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time,
A garden to nurture and protect
It's a measure of a life
The treasure of a life is a measure of love and respect,
The way you live, the gifts that you give
In the fullness of time,
It's the only return that you expect
Neil Peart (The Garden)
Ernest Hemingway once wrote, ‘The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for.’ I agree with the second part.
Andrew Kevin Walker (Seven)
In this game that we’re playing, we can’t win. Some kinds of failure are better than other kinds, that’s all.
George Orwell (Nineteen Eighty-Four)
Jacaerys Velaryon ha scritto:Intervista bomba di GRRM su vari argomenti:
*Non ha intenzione di arrendersi con ASOIAF e se dovesse morire prima di aver terminato la saga, essa resterà incompiuta
Ad un certo punto qualche anno fa sul Not a Blog aveva detto qualcosa che sembrava un cambio di direzione sull'argomento (parlava di un amico deceduto che non aveva completato una saga o qualcosa di simile).
In un certo senso ero venuto a patti che la saga l'avremo vista finire da qualche altro autore.
Poi arriva George e ti tira un calcio nelle palle
con quel numero di pagine, sperando siano "fisse" e non soggette a cestinamenti e riscritture, qualsiasi editore serio dopo quindici anni dovrebbe convincerlo almeno a pubblicarne una parte, forse aiuterebbe anche qualcuno non poter ricambiare le cose per l'ennesima volta...
peraltro potrei anche pensare che, a meno di non voler pubblicare un volume da 2500 pagine, non avrebbe molto senso non considerare TWOW una priorita se il libro ne avesse pronte 1100, quindi non so alla fine quanto ci sia di vero...
" A Grande Inverno giuriamo la fedeltà della Torre delle Acque Grigie. Cuore e focolare e raccolto a te noi doniamo, mio lord. Le nostre spade, le lance e le frecce sono al tuo comando. Da’ misericordia ai nostri deboli, aiuta i nostri inermi e fa’ giustizia per tutti. Noi mai ti volteremo le spalle. Lo giuro sulla terra e sull’acqua. Lo giuro sul bronzo e sul ferro. Lo giuriamo sul ghiaccio e sul fuoco. "
