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Leggo che tra le cose cui sta lavorando Martin, c'e' anche questa "opera" enciclopedica che data la vastita' del mondo creato da Martin stesso si presume (almeno per il sottoscritto), di grande interesse. Pero' non ne sento parlare molto, forse perche' in effetti se ne sa molto poco.

Io resto comunque in attesa trepidante...sperando che esca anche in italiano.

 

In effetti mi manca un sito od un libro un po' approfondito che tratti (in italiano e con buone illustrazioni) della geografia, delle religoni, delle casate e dei personaggi de Le cronache del ghiaccio e del fuoco".


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In effetti mi manca un sito od un libro un po' approfondito che tratti (in italiano e con buone illustrazioni) della geografia, delle religoni, delle casate e dei personaggi de Le cronache del ghiaccio e del fuoco".

 

Un sito in italiano? e quello dove siamo? <img alt=" />

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Leggo che tra le cose cui sta lavorando Martin, c'e' anche questa "opera" enciclopedica che data la vastita' del mondo creato da Martin stesso si presume (almeno per il sottoscritto), di grande interesse. Pero' non ne sento parlare molto, forse perche' in effetti se ne sa molto poco.

Io resto comunque in attesa trepidante...sperando che esca anche in italiano.

 

In effetti mi manca un sito od un libro un po' approfondito che tratti (in italiano e con buone illustrazioni) della geografia, delle religoni, delle casate e dei personaggi de Le cronache del ghiaccio e del fuoco".

 

 

Attendo anche io con ansia notizie in merito, ho sempre adorato queste specie di enciclopedie, contribuiscono secondo me in modo essenziale all'epica della storia.

 

Spero che arrivi presto e che sia un lavoro sublime, anche se mi dispiace che toglierà tempo a Martin.

 

Ah, tutto ciò ovviamente con tutto il rispetto per La Barriera. <img alt=" />

 

ps. io comunque un allargamento dell'atlante, aggiungendo anche le terre ad est, lo farei se fosse possibile. :)


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In effetti mi manca un sito od un libro un po' approfondito che tratti (in italiano e con buone illustrazioni) della geografia, delle religoni, delle casate e dei personaggi de Le cronache del ghiaccio e del fuoco".

 

Un sito in italiano? e quello dove siamo? <img alt=" />

 

Giusto giusto, chiedo venia.

In realta' mi riferivo ad un sito enciclpedico, un po' come lo e' A wiki of ice and fire.

Sento necessita' di mappe dettagliate, di vedere dal vero gli innumerevoli stemmi di casate che Martin cita continuamente nei suoi libri, di vedere alberi genealogici e descrizioni e collegamenti di personaggi tra (anche a causa dell'ampio lasso di tempo reale in cui viene scritta la storia) i quali mi perdo continuamente lungo la lettura.

 

Ma forse tutto cio' sara' possibile solo a trame completamente tessute...dopo l'uscita del settimo libro!! Ahime'!!


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In realta' mi riferivo ad un sito enciclpedico, un po' come lo e' A wiki of ice and fire.

 

ma per tutto ciò che non è 'discussione e approfondimento', ma solo 'nozionismo assurdo, enclicopedia e dettagli', A Wiki of Ice And Fire & Tower of the Hand sono completissimi. per tutto il resto, c'è LaBarriera <img alt=" />



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State 'bboni, fanciulli. Sotto la superficie ghiacciata della Barriera qualcosa si muove... ;)


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The best fantasy is written in the language of dreams. It is alive as dreams are alive, more real than real... for a moment at least... that long magic moment before we wake.
Fantasy is silver and scarlet, indigo and azure, obsidian veined with gold and lapis lazuli. Reality is plywood and plastic, done up in mud brown and olive drab.
Fantasy tastes of habaneros and honey, cinnamon and cloves, rare red meat and wines as sweet as summer. Reality is beans and tofu, and ashes at the end.
Reality is the strip malls of Burbank, the smokestacks of Cleveland, a parking garage in Newark. Fantasy is the towers of Minas Tirith, the ancient stones of Gormenghast, the halls of Camelot.
Fantasy flies on the wings of Icarus, reality on Southwest Airlines.
Why do our dreams become so much smaller when they finally come true?
We read fantasy to find the colors again, I think. To taste strong spices and hear the songs the sirens sang. There is something old and true in fantasy that speaks to something deep within us, to the child who dreamt that one day he would hunt the forests of the night, and feast beneath the hollow hills, and find a love to last forever somewhere south of Oz and north of Shangri-La.
They can keep their heaven. When I die, I'd sooner go to Middle-earth.

 

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State 'bboni, fanciulli. Sotto la superficie ghiacciata della Barriera qualcosa si muove... ;)

 

 

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Martin ha letto una parte al Worldcon e ne è emerso un resoconto. E' piuttosto completo ed è pieno di informazioni riguardo la Guerra di Conquista di Aegon, perciò se non si vogliono avere anticipazioni è il caso di non leggere. Ero indeciso se metterlo qui o se sul Castello Nero, dopotutto si tratta di storie inerenti ASOIAF ma nel dubbio posto qui:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Before the reading, he talked briefly about The Lands of Ice and Fire book being released soon. All the maps are being blown up to poster size and also there will be new maps included. He said that blowing the maps up proved problematic because it left a lot of empty space, which he had to fill in with new locations.

The reading itself was an excerpt from The World of Ice and Fire, to be published the year after the map book. The book is basically a fake history book ‘written’ by an Archmaester. Certain spoilerly bits, such as Summerhall, will conveniently be smudged or have ink spilled on them.

*note about names* The spelling of most of the new names here are rough guesses.

The reading:

Aegon’s Conquest lasted roughly 2 years, between 2-1 BC (Before Conquest).

12 years before the Doom of Valyria, Aenar (Aenar the Exile) Targaryen relocated his family to Dragonstone.

His daughter, Daenys the Dreamer, foresaw the Doom by fire.

The Targeryens were the only Dragonlords to survive.

Dragonstone had been a Valeryian outpost for 2 centuries.

Houses Velaryon and Celtigar were Targaryen allies.

100 years after relocation to Dragonstone called “century of blood”

Rulers of Dragonstone:

  • Gaemon the Glorious: son of Aenar and brother/husband of Daenys .
  • Aegon and Elena: Gaemon’s son and daughter who ruled together.
  • Maegon: Aegon and Elena’s son.
  • Aerys: Maegon’s brother, Aegon and Elena’s son.
  • Aelix, Baelon, and Dameon: Aerys’ sons.
  • Aerion: Dameon’s son.
Aegon the Conqueror born in 27 BC. Only son of the second child of Aerion (not sure if same Aerion as above?) and Velena of House Velaryon.

Tradtionally Aegon would have married only his older sister, but he married both. This was unusual.

All were Dragonlords before they married.

Aenar brought 5 dragons from Valyria. Only one survived to Aegon’s time: Balerion.

Vhagar and Meraxes born on Dragonstone.

Storm King – King Argilac of House Durrendon.

Riverlands ruled by Harren the Black of House Hoare.

Storm King offered Aegon his maiden daughter, but Aegon refused. Offered to have her marry Orys Baratheon, his bastard half-brother and friend. Storm King was pissed and wasn’t having any of that shit. Cut off envoy’s hands and sent them to Aegon. “These are the only hands your bastard shall have of me.”

Aegon summoned bannermen and allies. Sent ravens to all seven kingdoms. Those who bent the knee would keep lands and titles. Those who took up arms would be destroyed.

Targaryen host landed at the mouth of Blackwater Rush. Built fort on highest hill – “Aegon Fort” Sent his sisters to secure nearby castles. Rosby yielded to Rhaenys. Visenya took Stokeworth.

Visenya: eldest sibling, a warrior, sword called Dark Sister, “a harsh beauty”, stern, serious, unforgiving, rumored to dabble in sorcery.

Rhaenys: youngest sibling, playful, curious, loved music, dancing, and poetry. Spent more time on dragon back than her siblings, loved to fly, rumored infidelity, surrounded herself with comely young men.

Aegon spent 10 nights with Rhaenys for every 1 eh spent with Visenya.

Aegon was an enigma. Sword called Blackfire. Great warrior, never rode in tourney, flew only for battle or travel, had no close friends except Orys, remained faithful to his sisters. Left more governance to his sisters, took command when necessary. Harsh with those who defied him, open-handed to those who bent the knee.

Aegon Fort was buil on the hill that would later be called Aegon’s High Hill.

Aegon’s coronation.

Daemon Velaryion – Master of Ships

Tristan Massey – Master of Law

Crispian Celtiagar – Master of Coin

Orys Baratheon – “My shield, my stalwart, my strong right hand.” First King’s Hand.

Harren the Black and the Storm King called their banners.

King of the Reach met with the Lannister King.

Princess of Dorne sent a raven to Dragonstone. Offered alliance against the Storm King, but would not bend the knee.

Eyrie boy king Ronal Arryn also offered alliance.

Orys and Rhaenys led men for Storm’s end.

Daemon Velaryon led fleet for Gulltown with Visenya. Arryn fleet defeated Targaryen fleet. Visenya burned Arryn ships.

Aegon marched to Harrenhal.

Trident lords had no love for ironborn Harren the Black. Edmyn Tully raised other lords against him and declared for House Targaryen.

Outnumbered, Harren took refuge in Harrenhal.

Harren and Aegon met. Harren would not yield. Aegon said “When the sun sets, your line shall end.”

Aegon flew up very very high and descended inside the walls of the castle. Covered the castle in black fire with swirls of red.

Next day, Edmyn Tully swore fealty to Aegon and was named Lord Paramount of the Trident.

The Storm King gathered a host at Storm’s End. Rode out to meet in the field. Began to rain, but The Storm King would not back down. Outnumbered the Targaryen host. Battle known as “The Last Storm.” Orys and Argilac fought and Orys won.

Argilac’s daughter Argella barred Storm’s End and declared herself the Storm Queen. Her men didn’t want to die and delivered her chained and naked to the Targaryen host. Orys Baratheon unchained her, wrapped her in his cloak, and treated her gently. Took Durrendon words and sigil for his own and married her.

King Torrhen Stark called his banners.

Queen Shara of the Vale (regent for the boy king) sent an army to the Bloody Gate. Used to be considered most beautiful in Westeros and sent Aegon a portrait of herself. Offered marriage is he named her son his heir.

Lannister and Gardener assembled armies and joined their hosts. Considered the mightiest host ever in Westeros: 55000 men, 600 lords, and over 5000 mounted knights.

Aegon gathered host 1/5 the size and went to meet them. His queens met him at Stoney Sept.

The armies met in a plain. The grass and wheat was dry. Aegon shot fire the host and Visenya and Rhaenys set fires upwind and behind the enemy. They were blinded by smoke and fire and they panicked. Battle was called “The Field of Fire.” 4000 died from the fire, and another 1000 died in battle. Targaryens lost less than 100 men.

Gardener King and sons were killed. End of House Gardener.

Lannister King lived and fled. Captured the next day and bent the knee to Aegon. Named him Lord of Casterly Rock and Warden of the West.

Higharden was yielded by its steward Harlen Tyrell. Made Lord of the Reach and Warden of the South.

Aegon was going to head south to Dorne, but Torrhen Stark had crossed the neck with an army of 30000. Aegon went to meet him with a host half the size. Stark’s bastard brother Brandon Snow crossed the Trident with 3 maesters to treat with Aegon. Stark went the next day and bent the knee. Was made Lord of Winterfell and Warden of the North.

Aegon went to Oldtown, Visenya went to the Vale, and Rhaenys to Dorne.

Visenya landed in the Eyrie’s inner courtyard. When the Vale’s regent queen rushed out there, she found Visenya with her son the boy king on her knee. “Mother can I go flying with the lady?”

Visenya and the Vale Queen exchanged courtesies and the regent bent the knee.

The Dornish princess Mariya Martell was 80 years old, had ruled for 60 years, was fat, blind, and almost bald. Called by Argilac the Arrogant “The Yellow Toad of Dorne.” She would not yield to Rhaenys. “Dorne has no king, tell your brother that.”

“This is Dorne. You are not wanted here. Return at your peril.”

Oldtown was yielded by House Hightower. The High Septon in Oldtown yielded to Aegon. High Septon anointed Aegon with the seven oils in the Starry Sept and crowned him.

Aegon made King’s Landing at the mouth of Blackwater Rush. Made the Iron Throne from the swords collected after each battle/yield.

-end of the reading-

GRRM compares that excerpt to the outline of a whole novel.

“Eventually I will get hit by a bus and you will find someone writing this as a trilogy.”

Two more sidebars about Aegon’s reign. About attempts to subdue Dorne and his reign with his wives.

One called “Sons of the Dragon” about his sons’ ruilings after his death. A tumultuous period.

One about the Dance with the Dragons, the first civil war, with unreliable narrators.

One of the unreliable narrators is a dwarf jester named Mushroom, who was the fool for Viserys I. Poison! Incest! Orgies! Oh my!


 

« I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp'd on these lifeless things,
The hand that mock'd them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away. »

 

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Grazie Sharingan per la trascrizione!

 

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Storm King offered Aegon his maiden daughter, but Aegon refused. Offered to have her marry Orys Baratheon, his bastard half-brother and friend. Storm King was pissed and wasn’t having any of that shit. Cut off envoy’s hands and sent them to Aegon. “These are the only hands your bastard shall have of me.”

Aegon summoned bannermen and allies.

 

Comunque la si veda, sono sempre le donne promesse ai Baratheon ad essere il casus belli!


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Molto interessante finalmente qualcosina di "nuovo", grazie sharingan


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Come sapete, Martin sta lavorando tra l'altro, in collaborazione con Elio M. Garcia e Linda Antonsson, ad un libro di storia dei Sette Regni, che dovrebbe intitolarsi The World of Ice and Fire, di prossima pubblicazione.

 

In due recenti convention, anziché come di consueto leggere capitoli tratti da The Winds of Winter, ha letto un lungo brano tratto da questo libro, brano dedicato in particolare alla storia della Conquista.

 

Inserisco qui sotto un paio di riassunti (ovviamente in inglese) che ho trovato in rete di tale spezzone: mi pare che contengano qualche dato nuovo e interessante :)

 

GRRM reading at Worldcon

 

Before the reading, he talked briefly about The Lands of Ice and Fire book being released soon. All the maps are being blown up to poster size and also there will be new maps included. He said that blowing the maps up proved problematic because it left a lot of empty space, which he had to fill in with new locations.

The reading itself was an excerpt from The World of Ice and Fire, to be published the year after the map book. The book is basically a fake history book ‘written’ by an Archmaester. Certain spoilerly bits, such as Summerhall, will conveniently be smudged or have ink spilled on them.

*note about names* The spelling of most of the new names here are rough guesses.

The reading:

Aegon’s Conquest lasted roughly 2 years, between 2-1 BC (Before Conquest).

12 years before the Doom of Valyria, Aenar (Aenar the Exile) Targaryen relocated his family to Dragonstone.

His daughter, Daenys the Dreamer, foresaw the Doom by fire.

The Targeryens were the only Dragonlords to survive.

Dragonstone had been a Valeryian outpost for 2 centuries.

Houses Velaryon and Celtigar were Targaryen allies.

100 years after relocation to Dragonstone called “century of blood”

Rulers of Dragonstone:

  • Gaemon the Glorious: son of Aenar and brother/husband of Daenys .
  • Aegon and Elena: Gaemon’s son and daughter who ruled together.
  • Maegon: Aegon and Elena’s son.
  • Aerys: Maegon’s brother, Aegon and Elena’s son.
  • Aelix, Baelon, and Dameon: Aerys’ sons.
  • Aerion: Dameon’s son.
Aegon the Conqueror born in 27 BC. Only son of the second child of Aerion (not sure if same Aerion as above?) and Velena of House Velaryon.

Tradtionally Aegon would have married only his older sister, but he married both. This was unusual.

All were Dragonlords before they married.

Aenar brought 5 dragons from Valyria. Only one survived to Aegon’s time: Balerion.

Vhagar and Meraxes born on Dragonstone.

Storm King – King Argilac of House Durrendon.

Riverlands ruled by Harren the Black of House Hoare.

Storm King offered Aegon his maiden daughter, but Aegon refused. Offered to have her marry Orys Baratheon, his bastard half-brother and friend. Storm King was pissed and wasn’t having any of that shit. Cut off envoy’s hands and sent them to Aegon. “These are the only hands your bastard shall have of me.”

Aegon summoned bannermen and allies. Sent ravens to all seven kingdoms. Those who bent the knee would keep lands and titles. Those who took up arms would be destroyed.

Targaryen host landed at the mouth of Blackwater Rush. Built fort on highest hill – “Aegon Fort” Sent his sisters to secure nearby castles. Rosby yielded to Rhaenys. Visenya took Stokeworth.

Visenya: eldest sibling, a warrior, sword called Dark Sister, “a harsh beauty”, stern, serious, unforgiving, rumored to dabble in sorcery.

Rhaenys: youngest sibling, playful, curious, loved music, dancing, and poetry. Spent more time on dragon back than her siblings, loved to fly, rumored infidelity, surrounded herself with comely young men.

Aegon spent 10 nights with Rhaenys for every 1 eh spent with Visenya.

Aegon was an enigma. Sword called Blackfire. Great warrior, never rode in tourney, flew only for battle or travel, had no close friends except Orys, remained faithful to his sisters. Left more governance to his sisters, took command when necessary. Harsh with those who defied him, open-handed to those who bent the knee.

Aegon Fort was buil on the hill that would later be called Aegon’s High Hill.

Aegon’s coronation.

Daemon Velaryion – Master of Ships

Tristan Massey – Master of Law

Crispian Celtiagar – Master of Coin

Orys Baratheon – “My shield, my stalwart, my strong right hand.” First King’s Hand.

Harren the Black and the Storm King called their banners.

King of the Reach met with the Lannister King.

Princess of Dorne sent a raven to Dragonstone. Offered alliance against the Storm King, but would not bend the knee.

Eyrie boy king Ronal Arryn also offered alliance.

Orys and Rhaenys led men for Storm’s end.

Daemon Velaryon led fleet for Gulltown with Visenya. Arryn fleet defeated Targaryen fleet. Visenya burned Arryn ships.

Aegon marched to Harrenhal.

Trident lords had no love for ironborn Harren the Black. Edmyn Tully raised other lords against him and declared for House Targaryen.

Outnumbered, Harren took refuge in Harrenhal.

Harren and Aegon met. Harren would not yield. Aegon said “When the sun sets, your line shall end.”

Aegon flew up very very high and descended inside the walls of the castle. Covered the castle in black fire with swirls of red.

Next day, Edmyn Tully swore fealty to Aegon and was named Lord Paramount of the Trident.

The Storm King gathered a host at Storm’s End. Rode out to meet in the field. Began to rain, but The Storm King would not back down. Outnumbered the Targaryen host. Battle known as “The Last Storm.” Orys and Argilac fought and Orys won.

Argilac’s daughter Argella barred Storm’s End and declared herself the Storm Queen. Her men didn’t want to die and delivered her chained and naked to the Targaryen host. Orys Baratheon unchained her, wrapped her in his cloak, and treated her gently. Took Durrendon words and sigil for his own and married her.

King Torrhen Stark called his banners.

Queen Shara of the Vale (regent for the boy king) sent an army to the Bloody Gate. Used to be considered most beautiful in Westeros and sent Aegon a portrait of herself. Offered marriage is he named her son his heir.

Lannister and Gardener assembled armies and joined their hosts. Considered the mightiest host ever in Westeros: 55000 men, 600 lords, and over 5000 mounted knights.

Aegon gathered host 1/5 the size and went to meet them. His queens met him at Stoney Sept.

The armies met in a plain. The grass and wheat was dry. Aegon shot fire the host and Visenya and Rhaenys set fires upwind and behind the enemy. They were blinded by smoke and fire and they panicked. Battle was called “The Field of Fire.” 4000 died from the fire, and another 1000 died in battle. Targaryens lost less than 100 men.

Gardener King and sons were killed. End of House Gardener.

Lannister King lived and fled. Captured the next day and bent the knee to Aegon. Named him Lord of Casterly Rock and Warden of the West.

Higharden was yielded by its steward Harlen Tyrell. Made Lord of the Reach and Warden of the South.

Aegon was going to head south to Dorne, but Torrhen Stark had crossed the neck with an army of 30000. Aegon went to meet him with a host half the size. Stark’s bastard brother Brandon Snow crossed the Trident with 3 maesters to treat with Aegon. Stark went the next day and bent the knee. Was made Lord of Winterfell and Warden of the North.

Aegon went to Oldtown, Visenya went to the Vale, and Rhaenys to Dorne.

Visenya landed in the Eyrie’s inner courtyard. When the Vale’s regent queen rushed out there, she found Visenya with her son the boy king on her knee. “Mother can I go flying with the lady?”

Visenya and the Vale Queen exchanged courtesies and the regent bent the knee.

The Dornish princess Mariya Martell was 80 years old, had ruled for 60 years, was fat, blind, and almost bald. Called by Argilac the Arrogant “The Yellow Toad of Dorne.” She would not yield to Rhaenys. “Dorne has no king, tell your brother that.”

“This is Dorne. You are not wanted here. Return at your peril.”

Oldtown was yielded by House Hightower. The High Septon in Oldtown yielded to Aegon. High Septon anointed Aegon with the seven oils in the Starry Sept and crowned him.

Aegon made King’s Landing at the mouth of Blackwater Rush. Made the Iron Throne from the swords collected after each battle/yield.

-end of the reading-

GRRM compares that excerpt to the outline of a whole novel.

“Eventually I will get hit by a bus and you will find someone writing this as a trilogy.”

Two more sidebars about Aegon’s reign. About attempts to subdue Dorne and his reign with his wives.

One called “Sons of the Dragon” about his sons’ ruilings after his death. A tumultuous period.

One about the Dance with the Dragons, the first civil war, with unreliable narrators.

One of the unreliable narrators is a dwarf jester named Mushroom, who was the fool for Viserys I. Poison! Incest! Orgies! Oh my!

 

My notes from GRRM's reading and Q&A from yesterday:

 

Before the reading he talked about all the things he has going on. There is a new Wild Card book in the works as well as an "Old Mars" anthology. The latter will contain stories about Mars with the canals and Martians and such. He also talked about the ASoIaF Map book and the perils therein. He was initially told he wouldn't have to do any work on it but when the maps were blown up there was too much open space that needed to be filled. He also had to "head East" and create some terrain as well as cities. He indicated that it goes Far East but not to the Uttermost East. He imagined he would hear complaints about that.

 

Lastly he talked about the Worldbook that he has been working on with Elio and Linda. He's always wanted to explore the history of the world but it can't always come up in the narrative of the books, such as Littlefinger's interest of Aegon II's trade policy. This book can fix that and he has Elio and Linda who know more about Westeros as anyone. The Worldbook will be told by different maesters and will reflect their personality. Info that would be major spoilerish will be someone how blocked out. Something like a large ink stain covering up the events at Summerhall. With that, explaining that he doesn't want to read too many chapters from Winds, he had something else and we would be the first people to hear it. Or not...

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The History of Aegon's Conquest

 

The history begins by explaining that there is controversy about the beginning of Aegon's reign. The years before are slated as BC= Before Conquest and the ones after are AC= After Conquest. However, there is a 2 year span from when Aegon landed in Westeros at the Blackwater and when he was crowned in Oldtown by the High Septon. Debate continues as to when the new calendar should begin.

 

In Valyria, there were two great houses that contested for power. House Targaryen, however, was not considered a powerful house. Daenerys the Dreamer, the daughter of the head of House Targaryen, foresaw the Doom and convinced her father to leave Valyria. Her father, Aenar, took his family to Dragonstone along with 5 dragons. In Valyria, this was seen as weakness. The Doom happened 12 years after Aenar left for Dragonstone.

 

The Targaryens ruled Dragonstone for the next 100 years, which were called the Years of Blood.. 4 of the dragons died on Dragonstone leaving only Balerion. However two eggs hatched and Vhagar and Meraxes were born. "Gaimon" the Glorious ruled after Aenar and was followed by Maegon, Aerys, Ailex and Aerion. In 27 BC, Aegon the Conqueror was born. He later married both his sisters, Visenya and Rhaenys. This was considered unusual although there was precedent for it. The histories often said that Aegon had never stepped foot on Westeros before the Landing but there is evidence that he traveled to the south and may have even visited Lannisport.

 

Around that time there had been wars in the Riverlands and the Reach. The two most belligerent rulers were Black Harren, ruler of the Iron isles and Argilac the Arrogant. Harren was nearing completion of his vast castle and was said to be looking for more conquests. Argilac had grown afraid of Harren and so proposed an alliance with Aegon. It is believed he wanted to create a buffer zone between him and Harren. He offered the hand of his daughter in marriage as well as dowry lands. However, many of those lands were in fact in the possession of Harren the Black. Aegon refused and instead offered the hand of his best friend and bastard brother, Orys Baratheon. Argilac took this as a grave insult and had the hands of the envoy cut off. He sent them to Aegon with a message of "These are the only hands you will receive". Aegon called his banners and took counsel with them and his sisters. When they were done ravens flew to every ruler in the 7 Kingdoms. He informed them that "There will be only one king" and that those who bent the knee would keep their lands and titles. But those that did not he would destroy.

 

The size of the force that departed Dragonstone is belived to have been 3,000. Others believe it could have only a few hundred. They landed at the Blackwater, a place where a hundred kings of old had lain claim to. No kings ruled from there now, only a few petty lords lived nearby who were ruled by Harren and they loved him little. Aegon sent his sisters to nearby Rosby and Stokeworth and the castles surrendered without bloodshed. Darklyn of Duskendale and Mooton of Maidenpool did fight. Orys led the army while Aegon rode Balerion high in the sky. They won an easy victory.

 

Aegon's eldest sister was a warrior more comfortable in ringmail than in silk. She wielded a Valyrian steel sword called Dark Sister. She was described as having a harsh beauty and was reputed to have dabbled in sorcery. His younger sister Rhaenys was all that Visenya was not. Playful and curious, interested in music and poetry. However, she loved to ride her dragon Meraxes and spent twice as much time riding than her siblings. She surrounded herself with comely young men and there were whispers that she entertained men while Aegon was with Visenya. Yet Aegon spent ten nights with Rhaenys for every one with Visenya.

 

Aegon himself was seen as an enigma. He was a solitary person whose only friend was Orys. He was a great warrior who wielded a sword called Blackfire but only rode his dragon for battle or travel and never entered tourneys, He remained faithful to his sisters and left governance in their hands and only took command when necessary . While he was harsh with those who defied him, he was generous to those that bent the knee.

 

After the Landing, a wooden motte and bailey was built on one of the hills overlooking the Blackwater. He named Daemon Velaryon Master of Ships, Tristan Massey Master of Laws, and a Celtigar as Master of Coin (Thank you Boiled Leather for remembering that for me!). Orys Barathon he called "My shield, my stalwart, my strong right hand" and Orys became the first Hand of the King. Visenya would crown Aegon and Rhaenys hailed him as king. The lords and knights cheered him but the small folk cheered the loudest.

 

In the Seven Kingdoms, the kings raised their banners and made alliances. Dorne would offer an alliance to the Targaryens but only as equals. Little King Ronnel Arrys also offered an alliance. Aegon did not reply to either. All waited to see where the Targaryens would march. Daemon Veraryon would lead the fleet north and were met in battle by the Arryns. He would die in battle. (This portion was like a fog of war, so much info that it was hard to write it all down. I know I missed some). Orys Baratheon would be battered in battle. Aegon and Balerion burned Harren's sons in their longships and they would all die. Rebellions began to spring up. The Sistermen rebelled, followed by then by Riverlords. Edmyn Tully of Riverrun led his forces to Aegon and other greater houses followed: Mallisters, Brackens, Blackwoods, Freys among others. They all marched to Harrenhall and it was besieged. The walls were enormous and it was to have an unlimited supply of water and vast stores of provisions.

 

Aegon arrived and proposed a parley with Harren. Maesters were present and recorded the conversation.

 

Aegon:" Yield now and I will name you Lord of the Iron Isles. I have 8,000 men here"

Harren: "What are 8,000 men? I have walls!"

Aegon: "I have dragons."

Harren: "Stone will not burn"

Aegon: "At nightfall, your line will end"

 

Harren offered a vast reward to the man who slew the dragon. Aegon climbed onto Balerion and flew high into the sky. He descended with great speed and landed behind the walls. Balerion unleashed his fire. Stone may not burn but wood, thatch, and MEN did. Stone did crack, though, and the great towers soon looked like candles. Harren and his line did indeed end. Swords, blackened and bent were sent by cartloads to the Landing.

 

While Harren's men had rebelled, Argilac's men stayed loyal. He would vow that he would not die in his castle like a suckling pig with an apple in his mouth, but in battle. He led his army out into the field. Visenya scouted from the sky and informed Orys of Argilac's movements. As the armies drew close, a great storm came upon them. His men advised him to wait but he had the advantage of two to one and the rain was blowing into the faces of the Targaryens. Argilac advanced and began the Battle of the Last Storm. Argilac's knights charged but were slowed by the mud. They finally broke though but faced Visenya on Meraxes. The dragon was just as deadly on the ground as in the air. In the confusion, Argilac was thrown from his horse and found himself face to face with Orys Baratheon. Both took a wound but soon Argilac would get his wish and would die in battle. His death would signify the end of the battle.

 

At Storm's End, Argilac's daughter Argella would declared herself Storm Queen and defiantly barred the gates. However, her men were not so eager to die and presented her to Orys chained and naked. Orys treated her gently. He removed the chains and gave her his cloak as well as food and wine. He would take her House words and later marry her.

 

In the Vale, Queen Sharra Arryn plotted her next move, She was said to be beautiful and sent her portrait to Aegon with talks of marriage. Her only demand was that her son Ronnel would be named Aegon's heir. Aegon did not reply. King Torrhen Stark also called his banners.

 

King Meryn Gardener and King Lorren Lannister assembled a huge army of 55,000 and marched towards Aegon. The three dragons gathered at Stoney Sept. The allies had 5 times as many men as Aegon did, including many more lords and knights. Meryn Gardener commanded the most men so he demanded command of the vanguard. Jon Wooten of Maidenpool, the first lord to come over, was given command of the Targaryen army. The narrative comments more than once that the field was quite dry that day. The allies charged and started to break the Targaryen lines. The dragons took to the air and began to set the field aflame on all sides, especially downwind of the allies while Wooten was upwind. Of the allies, 4,000 died in the fire while 10,000 men suffered burns. Other thousands suffered wounds. Of the Targaryens less than 100 were lost while Visenya took an arrow to the shoulder. King Meryn of Highgarden and his sons died in the battle but King Lorren Lannister escaped. He was caught the next day and so bent the knee. Aegon kept his promise and raised Lorren up and named him Lord of Casterly Rock and Warden of the West. Aegon flew to Highgarden and the castle was surrended by Steward Harlen Tyrell. Aegon named him Lord of the Reach and Warden of the South. They began to journey to Oldtown when news came from the North.

 

Torrhen Stark had raised a large army and had crossed the Neck. Aegon marched with an army half the size. The Starks waited at Moat Cailin and took counsel. Torrhen's bastard brother, Brandon Snow, offered to sneak into the Targaryen camp and kill the three dragons. Instead, Torrhen sent three maesters to meet Aegon across the Trident. Torrhen would bend the knee and would be forever nown as "The King Who Knelt".

 

The siblings would split up with Visenya flying to the Vale. She would land in the Eyrie's inner courtyard. Queen Sharra would come out to find her son Ronnel with Visenya and he wouild ask her, "Mother, can I go fly with the lady?" Sharra would yield and Ronnel would get to fly with the lady twice.

 

Rhaneys would journey to Dorne but would find keep after keep empty except for women and children. When asked where the men went, the Dornish would just reply "away". She would finally journey to Sunspear and would only find the Princess of Dorne, Mirram Martell. She was 80, fat, blind, and almost bald. Argilac the Arrogant would call her the "Yellow Toad of Dorne". Mirram would tell Rhaenys that she would not fight nor kneel. She told her to leave and return at her peril. Rhaenys warned that if she left, she would return with fire and blood. Mirram answered with words of House Martell.

 

Aegon had gone to the greatest city in Westeros, Oldtown. There the High Septon resided. He prayed for seven days and was answered by the Crone. He was warned that if they fought, Oldtown would fall. The ruler of Oldtown, Banfred Hightower, was a cautious man. He listened to the high Septon and soon Oldtown yielded. In the Starry Sept, Aegon was annointed in oil and proclaimed Aegon, First of His Name, King of the First Men, the Andals, and the Rhoynar. Because the maesters were there at the coronation, this date is considered the correct date. Many thought that Aegon would choose Odltown as his capitol or perhaps Dragonstone. He surprised them by choosing his small fort as his new capitol, King's Landing. And from there he would rule from an uncomfortable seat called the Iron Throne.

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GRRM stated that there will be different narratives in the Worldbook. He mentioned a dwarf jester of Viserys I named Mushroom who was around for some mayhem. There will also be a septon who will angrily refute many of Mushroom's wild claims. "Poison!? He didn't die of poison, he died in his sleep!"

 

In the Q&A he said he's not sure if he will expand the history of ASoIaF once the books are complete. He's not sure what he will want to do by then.

 

He said that LOVES to write about Arya's adventures in Braavos. He said he could write whole novels about. That received a huge applause until he joked that maybe he could put off Winds to do so.

 

He WILL collect the stories of Dunk and Egg into one book. I then asked if the story of Maekar's death (Egg's father) against an outlaw lord would be found in the Worldbook. He replied no, that will eventually make it into the Dunk and Egg stories. In the Worldbook the story of Maekar's death would be a SPOILER!!!

 

He doesn't think there is enough material to make a book with all the songs from the novels.

 

And no, LF will not ever be a POV.


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Inviato il 04 settembre 2012 12:18

uh... very interesting! <img alt=" />

 

Me lo devo studiare per bene... <img alt=" />


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And no, LF will not ever be a POV.

 

Emh... LF starebbe per...?


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Inviato il 04 settembre 2012 13:11

si sa quando dovrebbe uscire sta fi***a?????


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dovrebbe uscire a l'anno prossimo in autunno se non sbaglio.... o comunque nel corso del 2013


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