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{{Personaggio
| Nome = Leslyn
| Cognome = Haigh
| Casata = [[Nobile Casa Haigh]]
| Titoli = Ser
| StemmaF = St_Haigh
}}

 

[[Leslyn Haigh|Ser Leslyn Haigh]] è marito di [[Perriane Frey]].<ref name="ACOKAH">[[ACOK - Appendici#Appendice H|ACOK - Appendice H]]</ref>


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== Famiglia e genealogia ==

<table style="border-collapse:collapse;">
{{Genealogia | Quantità = 9 | Arg1 = C | Arg2 = A | Arg3 = H | Arg4 = A | Arg5 = C | Arg6 = A | Arg7 = H | Arg8 = A | Arg9 = C | Nome2 = ??? | Nome4 = ??? | Nome6 = ??? | Nome8 = ???}}
{{Genealogia | Quantità = 8 | Arg1 = E | Arg2 = C | Arg3 = I | Arg4 = F | Arg5 = C | Arg6 = I | Arg7 = C | Arg8 = E}}
{{Genealogia | Quantità = 15 | Arg1 = D | Arg2 = C | Arg3 = B | Arg4 = A | Arg5 = O | Arg6 = G | Arg7 = G | Arg8 = H | Arg9 = G | Arg10 = G | Arg11 = O | Arg12 = A | Arg13 = B | Arg14 = C | Arg15 = D | Nome4 = ??? | Nome12 = ???}}
{{Genealogia | Quantità = 5 | Arg1 = F | Arg2 = D | Arg3 = I | Arg4 = F | Arg5 = D}}
{{Genealogia | Quantità = 8 | Arg1 = F | Arg2 = B | Arg3 = A | Arg4 = H | Arg5 = A | Arg6 = D | Arg7 = C | Arg8 = B | Nome3 = [[Leslyn Haigh]] | Nome5 = [[Perriane Frey]]}}
{{Genealogia | Quantità = 15 | Arg1 = D | Arg2 = K | Arg3 = 2 | Arg4 = 2 | Arg5 = 2 | Arg6 = 2 | Arg7 = L | Arg8 = P | Arg9 = Q | Arg10 = 2 | Arg11 = L | Arg12 = P | Arg13 = M | Arg14 = D | Arg15 = B}}
{{Genealogia | Quantità = 9 | Arg1 = C | Arg2 = A | Arg3 = H | Arg4 = A | Arg5 = C | Arg6 = A | Arg7 = C | Arg8 = A | Arg9 = C | Nome2 = [[Harys Haigh]] | Nome4 = ??? | Nome6 = [[Donnel Haigh]] | Nome8 = [[Alyn Haigh]]}}
{{Genealogia | Quantità = 7 | Arg1 = E | Arg2 = C | Arg3 = I | Arg4 = F | Arg5 = E | Arg6 = D | Arg7 = C}}
{{Genealogia | Quantità = 8 | Arg1 = D | Arg2 = C | Arg3 = B | Arg4 = A | Arg5 = F | Arg6 = E | Arg7 = C | Arg8 = B | Nome4 = [[Walder Haigh]]}}
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Inviato il 17 aprile 2018 22:10

Sorry, rispondo in ritardo, secondo me nel cappello introduttivo sarebbe meglio introdurlo semplicemente come un cavaliere delle Terre dei Fiumi, insomma... non è che essere il marito di Perriane Frey sia poi così identificativo.


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The best fantasy is written in the language of dreams. It is alive as dreams are alive, more real than real... for a moment at least... that long magic moment before we wake.
Fantasy is silver and scarlet, indigo and azure, obsidian veined with gold and lapis lazuli. Reality is plywood and plastic, done up in mud brown and olive drab.
Fantasy tastes of habaneros and honey, cinnamon and cloves, rare red meat and wines as sweet as summer. Reality is beans and tofu, and ashes at the end.
Reality is the strip malls of Burbank, the smokestacks of Cleveland, a parking garage in Newark. Fantasy is the towers of Minas Tirith, the ancient stones of Gormenghast, the halls of Camelot.
Fantasy flies on the wings of Icarus, reality on Southwest Airlines.
Why do our dreams become so much smaller when they finally come true?
We read fantasy to find the colors again, I think. To taste strong spices and hear the songs the sirens sang. There is something old and true in fantasy that speaks to something deep within us, to the child who dreamt that one day he would hunt the forests of the night, and feast beneath the hollow hills, and find a love to last forever somewhere south of Oz and north of Shangri-La.
They can keep their heaven. When I die, I'd sooner go to Middle-earth.

 

[George R. R. Martin]


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Inviato il 24 aprile 2018 11:47

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Lord dei Pan di Stelle - Lord Comandante dei Peluche

The best fantasy is written in the language of dreams. It is alive as dreams are alive, more real than real... for a moment at least... that long magic moment before we wake.
Fantasy is silver and scarlet, indigo and azure, obsidian veined with gold and lapis lazuli. Reality is plywood and plastic, done up in mud brown and olive drab.
Fantasy tastes of habaneros and honey, cinnamon and cloves, rare red meat and wines as sweet as summer. Reality is beans and tofu, and ashes at the end.
Reality is the strip malls of Burbank, the smokestacks of Cleveland, a parking garage in Newark. Fantasy is the towers of Minas Tirith, the ancient stones of Gormenghast, the halls of Camelot.
Fantasy flies on the wings of Icarus, reality on Southwest Airlines.
Why do our dreams become so much smaller when they finally come true?
We read fantasy to find the colors again, I think. To taste strong spices and hear the songs the sirens sang. There is something old and true in fantasy that speaks to something deep within us, to the child who dreamt that one day he would hunt the forests of the night, and feast beneath the hollow hills, and find a love to last forever somewhere south of Oz and north of Shangri-La.
They can keep their heaven. When I die, I'd sooner go to Middle-earth.

 

[George R. R. Martin]

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Inviato il 24 aprile 2018 12:04 Autore

Mi pare però che in altri casi abbiamo fatto così :unsure: Di solito si indica il parente più vicino (genitore, figlio o coniuge), cui aggiungiamo eventuali altri se sono più famosi.

 

Per esempio, Rycherd Crane.



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Inviato il 02 maggio 2018 14:45

A proposito di Crane, ho aggiunto il titolo "Ser" nel box. :stralol:

 

In generale comunque boh, mi sembra più "brutta" come soluzione, nel senso che può avere senso se il parente indicato è significativo, ma se è un qualsiasi signor nessuno non è di alcun aiuto nell'identificazione del personaggio.


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Lord dei Pan di Stelle - Lord Comandante dei Peluche

The best fantasy is written in the language of dreams. It is alive as dreams are alive, more real than real... for a moment at least... that long magic moment before we wake.
Fantasy is silver and scarlet, indigo and azure, obsidian veined with gold and lapis lazuli. Reality is plywood and plastic, done up in mud brown and olive drab.
Fantasy tastes of habaneros and honey, cinnamon and cloves, rare red meat and wines as sweet as summer. Reality is beans and tofu, and ashes at the end.
Reality is the strip malls of Burbank, the smokestacks of Cleveland, a parking garage in Newark. Fantasy is the towers of Minas Tirith, the ancient stones of Gormenghast, the halls of Camelot.
Fantasy flies on the wings of Icarus, reality on Southwest Airlines.
Why do our dreams become so much smaller when they finally come true?
We read fantasy to find the colors again, I think. To taste strong spices and hear the songs the sirens sang. There is something old and true in fantasy that speaks to something deep within us, to the child who dreamt that one day he would hunt the forests of the night, and feast beneath the hollow hills, and find a love to last forever somewhere south of Oz and north of Shangri-La.
They can keep their heaven. When I die, I'd sooner go to Middle-earth.

 

[George R. R. Martin]

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Inviato il 09 maggio 2018 13:47 Autore

Non ho particolari problemi, basta che adottiamo la stessa soluzione in tutti i casi :)

 

Però sottolineo che, anche se Perriane (e nell'altro caso Rylene) è insignificante, il riferimento all'affinita' con i Frey (o i Florent) che ne deriva non lo è affatto.



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Inviato il 14 maggio 2018 11:12

Vero, ma quella non emerge comunque dall'albero?


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Lord dei Pan di Stelle - Lord Comandante dei Peluche

The best fantasy is written in the language of dreams. It is alive as dreams are alive, more real than real... for a moment at least... that long magic moment before we wake.
Fantasy is silver and scarlet, indigo and azure, obsidian veined with gold and lapis lazuli. Reality is plywood and plastic, done up in mud brown and olive drab.
Fantasy tastes of habaneros and honey, cinnamon and cloves, rare red meat and wines as sweet as summer. Reality is beans and tofu, and ashes at the end.
Reality is the strip malls of Burbank, the smokestacks of Cleveland, a parking garage in Newark. Fantasy is the towers of Minas Tirith, the ancient stones of Gormenghast, the halls of Camelot.
Fantasy flies on the wings of Icarus, reality on Southwest Airlines.
Why do our dreams become so much smaller when they finally come true?
We read fantasy to find the colors again, I think. To taste strong spices and hear the songs the sirens sang. There is something old and true in fantasy that speaks to something deep within us, to the child who dreamt that one day he would hunt the forests of the night, and feast beneath the hollow hills, and find a love to last forever somewhere south of Oz and north of Shangri-La.
They can keep their heaven. When I die, I'd sooner go to Middle-earth.

 

[George R. R. Martin]


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Up. :)


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Lord dei Pan di Stelle - Lord Comandante dei Peluche

The best fantasy is written in the language of dreams. It is alive as dreams are alive, more real than real... for a moment at least... that long magic moment before we wake.
Fantasy is silver and scarlet, indigo and azure, obsidian veined with gold and lapis lazuli. Reality is plywood and plastic, done up in mud brown and olive drab.
Fantasy tastes of habaneros and honey, cinnamon and cloves, rare red meat and wines as sweet as summer. Reality is beans and tofu, and ashes at the end.
Reality is the strip malls of Burbank, the smokestacks of Cleveland, a parking garage in Newark. Fantasy is the towers of Minas Tirith, the ancient stones of Gormenghast, the halls of Camelot.
Fantasy flies on the wings of Icarus, reality on Southwest Airlines.
Why do our dreams become so much smaller when they finally come true?
We read fantasy to find the colors again, I think. To taste strong spices and hear the songs the sirens sang. There is something old and true in fantasy that speaks to something deep within us, to the child who dreamt that one day he would hunt the forests of the night, and feast beneath the hollow hills, and find a love to last forever somewhere south of Oz and north of Shangri-La.
They can keep their heaven. When I die, I'd sooner go to Middle-earth.

 

[George R. R. Martin]


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Lord dei Pan di Stelle - Lord Comandante dei Peluche

The best fantasy is written in the language of dreams. It is alive as dreams are alive, more real than real... for a moment at least... that long magic moment before we wake.
Fantasy is silver and scarlet, indigo and azure, obsidian veined with gold and lapis lazuli. Reality is plywood and plastic, done up in mud brown and olive drab.
Fantasy tastes of habaneros and honey, cinnamon and cloves, rare red meat and wines as sweet as summer. Reality is beans and tofu, and ashes at the end.
Reality is the strip malls of Burbank, the smokestacks of Cleveland, a parking garage in Newark. Fantasy is the towers of Minas Tirith, the ancient stones of Gormenghast, the halls of Camelot.
Fantasy flies on the wings of Icarus, reality on Southwest Airlines.
Why do our dreams become so much smaller when they finally come true?
We read fantasy to find the colors again, I think. To taste strong spices and hear the songs the sirens sang. There is something old and true in fantasy that speaks to something deep within us, to the child who dreamt that one day he would hunt the forests of the night, and feast beneath the hollow hills, and find a love to last forever somewhere south of Oz and north of Shangri-La.
They can keep their heaven. When I die, I'd sooner go to Middle-earth.

 

[George R. R. Martin]

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Inviato il 24 maggio 2018 18:08 Autore
Il 14/5/2018 at 11:12, Lord Beric dice:

Vero, ma quella non emerge comunque dall'albero?

Certo. Il fatto però è che più o meno tutto emerge dall'albero: se il criterio fosse questo, non dovremmo metterci alcuna parentela ;)

La mia idea, come criterio generale, è che le informazioni essenziali per identificare il personaggio dovrebbero emergere dal testo, a prescindere da box, immagini, categorie, albero, etc.

 

Poi ovviamente questa è solo la mia idea, eh.

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Inviato il 29 maggio 2018 12:15

Sì, ma scrivere che ad esempio il tizio è solo marito di Perriane Frey è poco indicativo del suo rapporto con Walder, perché francamente se uno non controlla o non ha una memoria da elefante non si ricorda se la tizia in questione è figlia, nipote, lontana parente o che altro di Lord Walder.

Proprio per questo il valore aggiunto di una simile informazione mi sembra uguale se non inferiore a quello che da l'albero, e che forse un cappello introduttivo che non si appoggiasse su un rapporto di parentela con una figura pressoché sconosciuta sarebbe preferibile


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Lord dei Pan di Stelle - Lord Comandante dei Peluche

The best fantasy is written in the language of dreams. It is alive as dreams are alive, more real than real... for a moment at least... that long magic moment before we wake.
Fantasy is silver and scarlet, indigo and azure, obsidian veined with gold and lapis lazuli. Reality is plywood and plastic, done up in mud brown and olive drab.
Fantasy tastes of habaneros and honey, cinnamon and cloves, rare red meat and wines as sweet as summer. Reality is beans and tofu, and ashes at the end.
Reality is the strip malls of Burbank, the smokestacks of Cleveland, a parking garage in Newark. Fantasy is the towers of Minas Tirith, the ancient stones of Gormenghast, the halls of Camelot.
Fantasy flies on the wings of Icarus, reality on Southwest Airlines.
Why do our dreams become so much smaller when they finally come true?
We read fantasy to find the colors again, I think. To taste strong spices and hear the songs the sirens sang. There is something old and true in fantasy that speaks to something deep within us, to the child who dreamt that one day he would hunt the forests of the night, and feast beneath the hollow hills, and find a love to last forever somewhere south of Oz and north of Shangri-La.
They can keep their heaven. When I die, I'd sooner go to Middle-earth.

 

[George R. R. Martin]

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Inviato il 29 maggio 2018 14:10 Autore

Mmm... "un cavaliere delle Terre dei Fiumi imparentato con i Frey"?



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Inviato il 05 giugno 2018 23:07

Andata! E per il caso di Crane che avevi citato?

 


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Lord dei Pan di Stelle - Lord Comandante dei Peluche

The best fantasy is written in the language of dreams. It is alive as dreams are alive, more real than real... for a moment at least... that long magic moment before we wake.
Fantasy is silver and scarlet, indigo and azure, obsidian veined with gold and lapis lazuli. Reality is plywood and plastic, done up in mud brown and olive drab.
Fantasy tastes of habaneros and honey, cinnamon and cloves, rare red meat and wines as sweet as summer. Reality is beans and tofu, and ashes at the end.
Reality is the strip malls of Burbank, the smokestacks of Cleveland, a parking garage in Newark. Fantasy is the towers of Minas Tirith, the ancient stones of Gormenghast, the halls of Camelot.
Fantasy flies on the wings of Icarus, reality on Southwest Airlines.
Why do our dreams become so much smaller when they finally come true?
We read fantasy to find the colors again, I think. To taste strong spices and hear the songs the sirens sang. There is something old and true in fantasy that speaks to something deep within us, to the child who dreamt that one day he would hunt the forests of the night, and feast beneath the hollow hills, and find a love to last forever somewhere south of Oz and north of Shangri-La.
They can keep their heaven. When I die, I'd sooner go to Middle-earth.

 

[George R. R. Martin]


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Lord dei Pan di Stelle - Lord Comandante dei Peluche

The best fantasy is written in the language of dreams. It is alive as dreams are alive, more real than real... for a moment at least... that long magic moment before we wake.
Fantasy is silver and scarlet, indigo and azure, obsidian veined with gold and lapis lazuli. Reality is plywood and plastic, done up in mud brown and olive drab.
Fantasy tastes of habaneros and honey, cinnamon and cloves, rare red meat and wines as sweet as summer. Reality is beans and tofu, and ashes at the end.
Reality is the strip malls of Burbank, the smokestacks of Cleveland, a parking garage in Newark. Fantasy is the towers of Minas Tirith, the ancient stones of Gormenghast, the halls of Camelot.
Fantasy flies on the wings of Icarus, reality on Southwest Airlines.
Why do our dreams become so much smaller when they finally come true?
We read fantasy to find the colors again, I think. To taste strong spices and hear the songs the sirens sang. There is something old and true in fantasy that speaks to something deep within us, to the child who dreamt that one day he would hunt the forests of the night, and feast beneath the hollow hills, and find a love to last forever somewhere south of Oz and north of Shangri-La.
They can keep their heaven. When I die, I'd sooner go to Middle-earth.

 

[George R. R. Martin]

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